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A Conversation between Aspiring Immortals

...about Life and her Special Child, our good friend, Death…

Season 1, episode 3
33 min / Published

What happens when two quite mortal humans launch themselves out into the void to talk about Life and her Special Child, our good friend Death? To find out, tune into this bouncy conversation between myself and the beautiful and exuberant young writer, artist and youtube creator Zulema Fernandez.

Also, meet Jose, author of Hacedor de sentidoMaker of Meaning* – and his growing online community, Comunidad Hacedor de Sentido, who say this about themselves: “We welcome individuals from around the world who wish to help each other become better people, free human beings working together to transform ourselves and our environment. By contacting the Force within us and deepening our experience of the Transcedent, we aspire to contribute to a qualitative leap by our species.”**

It was through that online community that Jose met Zulema. She was such an enthusiastic and articulate participant that when I asked Jose if any of his community members might like to speak with me on this podcast, he immediately put me in touch with her.

That was how Zulema and I ended up meeting on Zoom at the end of May for a delightful half-hour conversation in which we barely scraped the tip of death rebellion iceberg. Here are a few teasers:

Why talk about death? Because it makes us more aware of life….

Maybe what dies is just our character, but not the consciousness that lives through that character…

…I suddenly felt like I was one with all the people surrounding me, like it was completely impossible to cut that connection. And I felt so much love and peace, I only could cry of happiness… The strange thing is, I wasn’t looking for that experience. It just occurred, like a flower blooms!

We are surrounded by this idea, that there is nothing more. That when we die, we die. But if there is nothing more, why are we constantly feeling that there is not enough, with ourselves, with our lives?

Observe how you ARE the other. The other human being, the other flower, the other mountain…

We ended our interchange with an eerily beautiful musical performance by Zulema, followed by some of my favorite words from “The Path” in Silo’s Message:

Do not imagine that you are alone in your village, in your city, on the earth, or among the infinite worlds.

Do not imagine that you are enchained to this time and this space.

Do not imagine that upon your death, lonliness will become eternal.

Our conversation left both of us touched and inspired, and we agreed that we would love to meet again, and invited any interested listeners to join us for an (unrecorded) zoom session.

*The novel Hacedor de Sentido/Maker of Meaning is currently being translated into English – contact Trudi for more information.

**Meetings of Comunidad Hacedor de Sentido are in Spanish only



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