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Final 2020 Presidential Debate (Uncut) — Trump v. Biden — October 22, 2020

Trump lies a lot but stays rather civil for the bar he has set for himself especially after the last debate.

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1 hr 39 min / Published October 23

Surprising far more civil that the last shitshow... adding more to this soon just trying to get the audio up ASAP. Light on substance but far more civil than the first debate  was shocked at how well behave Donald Trump was, ultimately this will have little effect on the voters either Red or Blue, I believe though. I would say that Joe Biden was the winner of that debate though on a Trumpian level Trump did well by staying on topic and civil even if he was playing fast and very loose with the facts (or lack thereof). I really just feel that Biden has a comfortable lead in the polls and there was no October surprise (yet) and Trump seems to be fighting the 2016 election still and not the 2020 campaign. 

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Presidential Donald Trump had a significantly better performance last night than in the first debate; however, was it enough to get him back on a level footing with Presidential Nominee Joe Biden? As we look back and reflect on the two Presidential debates, we have experienced this 2020 Election cycle; we cannot help but see a stark contrast. In the first debate, President Donald Trump acted like a spoiled child. He was disruptive and belligerent and completely remiss of any truths that can be backed by facts or any respect for his opponent, Democratic Presidential Nominee Joe Biden, or the American people who tuned in in near-record numbers to view the debate live.  The first debate that took place on September 29, 2020, in Cleveland, Ohio was an absolute disaster for this President and was a disservice to all those who tuned in on their TVs and computers. However, we saw a different Donald Trump last night than we saw in the first debate; one cannot say he did not significantly improve his performance. President Donald Trump simply cannot hold a stage with the likes of Joe Biden when it comes to talking about factual-based policies and events that are currently happening or in the past. His ability to tone down the spoiled-brat rhetoric that he displayed in the fir debate was not enough to push him over the finish line to provide him with the credibility and the persona required to hold the office of the President of The United States.  Yes, the President made a significant improvement over his first debate performance, so substantial that last night's event could be termed a debate.  Did a somewhat calmer and less aggressive Presidential image that Donald Trump displayed last evening live up to what we want in a leader of the free world?

Yes, the President made a significant improvement over his first debate performance, so substantial that last night's event could be termed a debate.  On September 29, 2020, we saw what could arguably be called the worst "debate" in the history of the American Presidential Elections t was an argument that has no elements of civilisation. President Donald J. Trump did everything in his power to try to cause Democratic Presidential Nominee Joseph R. Biden Jr. of his bearings in an attempt to make him stumble. The theory backfired on the President, and he made a fool of himself exposing the self-obsessed and personal ineptitude to act as President of the United States.  With the hangover of the election debates waning and the light at the end of the tunnel in sight, we received a much more civilised discussion last evening. We can start to see a little clearer how these debates have affected the American people and the people around the world. There is little doubt that after the horrific mockery the President made of the first debate. However, it was not an excellent performance of a politician at this level of the nation to qualify his performance as good. The President told more mistruths and made statements without any basis in facts that for the most part, would have been called flat out lies in any other previous election cycle.  The first debate left most of us viewers nauseous. I had no intent to watch last night except for the fact that I have been covering the debate process through my podcast and posting uncut audio of the debates online. I was expecting a shitshow like the first debate and was happy to see that it did not take place. However, the President was full of mistruths and attempted to criminalise Joe Biden then have a stable policy to spell out for the American people. He proved that he cannot lead the United States and is uninterested in actually creating any political change and is merely a power-hungry narcissist enjoying being in the spotlight.   While Donald Trump boasts of his political inexperience, it shows in his inability to create plans and activities that will deal with the country's issues. Joe Biden, on the other hand, actually has a plan for much of his political rhetoric and is displayed proudly on his election website. Donald Trump is merely a paper tiger that cannot perform the duties of the Presidency.

Did a somewhat calmer and less aggressive Presidential image that Donald Trump displayed last evening live up to what we want in a leader of the free world? The President throughout this election has proven that the medium is the message in his response to the COVID-19 pandemic. His staging of giant rallies without masks to flaunt the advice of all credible medical advisers has not only placed him and his supporters in jeopardy. These tactics helped confuse people about the dangers of the coronavirus and contributed to the United States status as the epicentre of the pandemic. A position it has held since shortly after the crisis started to spread across the world.  Donald Trump has taken a baseless and oddly impractical place on the use of facemasks and social distancing despite the concerns of scientists like Dr Anthony Fauci among many. His attacks against people for wearing masks and his attacks on scientists for advising their use has sown confusion and created mixed messaging in a time when the country is looking for a united stance against this deadly virus. He displayed this disdain for the seriousness of the pandemic last night and created an "Us versus Them" mindset in the collective psyche of the American people. Trump's actions and rhetoric do not bode well for the political legacy that will remain after the Trumpian Times are a thing of the past. These will be the messages he will be remembered for with him presiding over a country so divided that the most straightforward thing as a mask to save tens of thousands of lives has been politicised. Donald Trump seizes this very issue as an opportunity to mock and belittle anyone who chooses to take precautions recommended by the vast majority of the scientific community.   Donald Trump's disdain for the scientific community during the COVID-19 crisis has merely been one symptom of a lack of ability to accept scientific data if it does not fit his short-sighted political policies. Trump has an unwillingness ever to admit he may be wrong about anything. This inability to see the error of one's ways and correct them further shows his failure to hold the highest office in the nation especially during this crisis and all the damage that has and continues to cause.

Yes, the President made a significant improvement over his first debate performance, so substantial that last night's event could be termed a debate.  Did a somewhat calmer and less aggressive Presidential image that Donald Trump displayed last evening live up to what we want in a leader of the free world? As a result, President Donald Trump cannot hold a stage with the likes of Joe Biden when it comes to talking about factual-based policies and events that are currently happening or in the past. His ability to tone down the spoiled-brat rhetoric that he displayed in the fir debate was not enough the push him over the finish line to provide him with the credibility and the persona required to hold the office of the President of The United States.

Robert Cruise
The Indie Podcaster

This episode is part of the 2020 Presidential Election Coverage series
Trump/Pence v. Biden/Harris, debate and election coverage
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